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UFC star Chase Hooper chats w/ Angela Hill and Jessica Penne before UFC 310 fight vs Clay Guida!
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Jan 20, 2025
Chase "The Dream" Hooper (aka Mr. Hands Jr.) was nice enough to come on our show to let us know how hes getting on before his huge fight vs veteran Clay Guida at #UFC310. He talked family life, his mentality going into training, and explains to Jessica the lore of Mr. Hands. His gym's power went out so he went out and chatted with us in his car, boy was raised right! Members get this interview first (slightly before #UFCMacau so that why we had a picks section at the end :P) Join to get first dibs! 00:20 Training like Daredevil 02:18 Striking and physique leveled up in his last fights, what’s been the difference? 5:45 Chase was surprised at how he was able to control “Slava Claus” Viacheslav Borshchev but Slava refused to get strawweight 69’ed. 08:10 Was the stoppage controversial? 10:10 Chase inspired by Enumclaw, WA hometown hero Mr. Hands 13:40 How he’s feeling about the Clay Guida mma matchup vs their grappling match. 17:31 Chase breaks down how he’s been able to thrive at his small gym competing on the biggest mma stage 23:21 how Chase has dealt with being the “young guy” his entire UFC career 28:35 Chopping it up with Mikey Musumeci 31:40 How hard is the new weightcut? 34:13 What’s Chase’s dream finish? 37:11 Sign off and UFC Macau predictions Powered by Duelbits. Join us:
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naked Jess on the line has a wife that's
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true follow me back hi hi Chase thanks for joining us yeah
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thanks for having me I had to drive out to the gym parking lot like our power's out here um I have like full service in
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the gym parking lot but everywhere else it sucks so did it cut did it cut into your training
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time at all uh no last night we had a very romantic training session like candle lit um it was a good time yeah
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just you know nice can't really see you know can't really see what you're grabbing and all that but uh yeah we all
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had a good time just got to use your senses and feel it yeah yeah very Karate
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Kid ask on this one I feel like I've had a a trainer that's made us turn off the
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lights and roll it's kind of weird but you know fair enough it's better for Grapplers I think than
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Strikers yeah yeah yeah I tried to like just do some like touch sparring to warm
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up and I was like n the depth perception is too far off like we got to just we we cannot do any like sparring or anything
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right now in the dark that is not uh not gonna happen not gonna be safe yeah my uh my husband used to fight and he used
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to wear glasses he got like PRK surgery since then but because he couldn't see
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he was near side did I didn't realize that's why he was so good at clinch because on the outside he just felt
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really uncomfortable but once he can grab someone you see what's coming at him I feel like uh yeah grappling in the
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dark wouldn't be a problem for you you'd have an unfair Advantage yeah no that's fair I've done
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uh like Jiu-Jitsu like with your eyes closed I think it's kind of it's like a little different than striking because a
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lot of striking is more Visual and like instinctual stuff where grappling you can you feel it obviously so you don't
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really need your eyes um where I think that's why it took me a little longer to pick up the Striking than the Jiu-Jitsu
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but uh yeah I don't know well your striking was definitely on display in your last fight I said
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stri that that's how grappo say
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striking fair enough yeah you had a really impressive knockdown in your last fight um your striking looked much
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improved your physique looked built what's been the difference um I mean obviously I'm I'm
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cutting 10 less pounds these last you know three fights up at 55 so the the
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extra 10 pounds of muscle helps me look you know not as boyish um definitely uh
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getting getting more on the lifting like uh I have a trainer and stuff that I'm working with um more honestly more lower
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body uh strength and conditioning like I kind of shied away from it for a little bit because like I would like hurt my
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back and stuff like doing like probably poor technique on a lot of the leg lifts and then uh yeah just getting a a
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trainer and then doing lightweight doing like you know deadlifts um you know cleans stuff like
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that like safely um I feel like it's honestly helped me like I don't really have back pain anymore now like just
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kind of building up those muscles um yeah I mean I think honestly
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a lot of it was just confidence like you know that Slava fight was my ninth fight in UFC so I'm starting to figure this
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thing out a little bit um and yeah I mean it it was one of those things where it was like I really felt going into
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that fight I was like even if I win I'm gonna be super like beat up after this
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fight like even if I win he's gonna you know beat my leg up he's gonna you know
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I'm gonna have some wealth some bruises that type of stuff um so it really like helped put me in the mindset of like
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[ __ ] it like I've got nothing to lose and uh you know he he had more to worry
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about than I did I felt um which makes it easier as well I'm like I think I can out wrestle him I think I can out you
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know jits him and you know obviously I didn't I wasn't entirely confident in it
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at the time but I was like I think I can crack him you know like and uh literally the morning of we did like a little
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morning ShakeOut and uh just moving around um I had some guys you know pretending to be salava as best as they
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could um just a lot of boxing more than anything um and I was fainting the shot
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on him uh Fain in the shot and throwing in the overhand and it kept Landing I was like damn this this kind of a good
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idea um you know he know he thinks I'm going to shoot obviously um that's a
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smart man's bet and then uh Hey right on the button that was my Broken Clock moment you know right twice a day and uh
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you know one of those times happened to be on TV so it worked out that's awesome
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that that's one of those moves that I've always been a little jealous of uh Grapplers for you can always faint the
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shot and get the biggest reaction like fainting the shot you get a bigger reaction than F in the jab or fading the
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kick like people really react to that and then it leaves the punch open and you landed that perfectly but after that
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you were in such a wild Flow State like all the transitions you went to you you
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chose like more sport Jiu-Jitsu spots than like MMA spots in your grappling
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like there was a moment you went for the crucifix you went for like you know all these KNE cuts and you were uh going
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back and forth from Mount to pych and all that stuff did you feel like you were more I guess in touch with your
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style in that fight than the rest of them or or do you feel like uh you had one where you were even more comfortable
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honestly I felt like I was surprised I I thought I would get more resistance as far as the
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grappling goes um now granted I he was rocked and I was trying to just I was
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trying to overwhelm him with like a lot of the strikes and a lot of the movement but I was really I thought he'd like
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push and get up like I was honestly surprised at how um not good his grappling felt in
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the moment like I was really expecting it to be um you know he's that Team Alpha Male I I was expecting like at
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least being able to frame out like push up uh like all camp we were having guys
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like trying to explode up and like run away um and that was that was hard to deal with that sucked and then in the
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fight I was like this is kind of easy like easier than I was expecting it to be and then uh yeah they let it I mean
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he was doing Slava was moving just enough to keep Keith from uh stopping it I mean I think some refs definitely
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would have but uh I honestly was more like when the round ended I was like damn I gotta I gotta get back in on that
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as soon as possible like I do not want to spend any more time on the feet than I have to I want to you know like I
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don't know if he still rocked or not probably not you know that happened like in the first minute of the fight couple
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minutes later I hate him as much as I could but you know probably more rabbit punches than anything um
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and then yeah I just back in on it and uh thankfully he engaged in the grappling a little and uh here we are
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now yeah there's there's a move we coined the strawweight
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69 and you and you were there for a good portion of that fight yeah yeah the toe
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hold with the reverse triangle could you be the one out of anybody in the UFC do you think you could be the first person
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to get a submission via straw 869 honestly I thought I thought that would have been the time but he really
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uh I don't know like if they specifically drilled like the Toe Hold
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Escape but like he was doing a really good job of like uh using his free leg and framing like just enough like I
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couldn't get any more torque on that thing and and uh I wanted that reverse triangle but he was kind of more yeah
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like you're saying like we were more 69ing so it's not quite the angle I was looking for you know I I hope he had a
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good time you know but it is what it is oh man got the job done
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yeah it was good job you ended with a with a really nice submission finish but
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um borchev ended up protesting did you think that it was it was a good finish
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or do you think that he was just trying to play it up I mean honestly I I didn't
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really like I was just too locked in in the moment like I feel a lot of times you don't really necessarily you're not aware of what's
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going on so it's on the referee the ref's like hey that looked like a tap to me stop the fight um but honestly I
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still consider that fight a TKO like I don't think of it as a sub you know there a I felt like a lot of refs
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probably would have stopped that as a TKO in the first um but Keith Let It Go and uh yeah I mean the thing is I heard
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Slava saying like oh I want a rematch it's like why like was the fight competitive at all you know like it it
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was if it went to the third round if it kept going past that point there was still two minutes when I locked in the
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do I mean I had no intention of letting go until Keith told me to like you know
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I would have just kept adjusting and and going from there I mean I think uh part of it I don't think he'd ever been
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finished before um and I kind of knew that going into the fight I was like this dude's gonna be super tough to finish um so we were honestly trying to
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think more TKO or or like chokes like that um not like armbar maybe but like a
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dude like that he's going to let it break probably and uh you just got to have the right angle that type of thing so I don't know I I um that's the thing
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is it's like it's not my it's not my fault that the ref stopped it when you felt like you weren't tapping there was
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like a certain like a overhead view where it looked like a very clear like a Bop and
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uh I don't know you know it's it's not my problem I still got my two checks
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still a win on the record I still I still think of it as a TKO it's not really a sub my opinion yeah there were
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a lot of moments in that first round especially where it could have been stopped and uh it was able to keep going
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is that why they call you Mr hands yeah that was a little bit of a of
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an in joke can you can you explain to Jess what Mr H is do you know what Mr H
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is Jess dying to know please all right well it's a little enum claw history uh
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Enumclaw is my hometown and uh I'm actually uh you know you need
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claw right now um well here there was like a Boeing executive who I guess he
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got in like a motorcycle accident so he didn't really have a lot of feeling and uh his thing that he was into was uh
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being on the receiving end of a male horse and uh his name uh the guy the guy
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not the horse the guy was uh went by the name Mr hands the videos are out there
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um and essentially probably would have been all well and good but uh I mean you know
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whatever but he essentially got like his colon punctured or something and then I
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guess the story goes like the people were scared to take him to the hospital so he like just died of like sepsis in
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like a barn over like a week via VIA you know horse you know uh horse penetration
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yeah yeah trying to trying to think of the polite way of saying it but yeah he's
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probably one of the more famous guys from Enumclaw I'm trying to take that title eventually but uh I'm you have you
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have some competition to be honest you got to step it up hey yeah oh my
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God yeah hey it's justess has like three horses so I
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felt like that story would resonate with it just yeah it hit me
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yeah yeah it was uh Enumclaw Legend to this day so that's Washington Edom claw
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yeah yeah yeah um okay very wild we're actually uh I mean people think of
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Washington they're like Seattle but like Enumclaw here like there's more cows than there are people I guarantee it um
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we're pretty uh we're pretty far from the city so uh yeah we got all sorts of activities going on yeah it's all you
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hiking with uh with your is that your wife or yeah yeah my wife and our baby
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yeah that that to totally change the subject fair enough it looks like it
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looks like there's a lot of wilderness a lot of things is your gym in there to out there too or is it close to the city
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uh yeah no my Gym's here in Enumclaw uh I actually got super lucky like my coach
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just ended up you know um he was from California like he started at half Gracie like he started with legit dudes
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and then moved up here to Washington um his wife's family is from here and then uh yeah opened up a gym right down the
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road my parents brought me in when I was eight and uh never left I mean I was lucky enough to be at the point where
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you know I'm close I'm like walking distance to the gym um and I was able to do that for most of my childhood and uh
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yeah just stuck it out and then uh he was in the UFC when I was younger he had a couple fights and then uh yeah I mean
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he took me from literally day one you know eight-year-old kid doing Jiu-Jitsu all the way to UFC and then now I'm
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getting to fight a Hall of Famer so I mean looks like we're doing pretty all right out here that's awesome yeah you
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have a big fight coming up with um a previous grappling opponent do you see
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yourself having Advantage because you've faced each other before um I mean I I
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think it's kind of a I don't know so much of an advantage but it's it's mutually a little more like we've kind
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of shown each other our hand a little bit um I don't know it's it's so different MMA versus just grappling like
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he's kind of a little more forced obviously to to engage in in the grappling side of things when it's just
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a grappling match um but I don't know it's it's really I think honestly trying to just keep
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myself grounded and uh not you know look past clay he's a Hall of Famer I mean I
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was able to sub him in a Jiu-Jitsu match but I would expect that my Jiu-Jitsu would be better like he's a wrestler you
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know he's been a wrestler since day one and you know striking it probably goes for him like wrestling striking
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Jiu-Jitsu is probably third tier um you know where me it's probably more
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Jiu-Jitsu then wrestling than striking you know so it's kind of a
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um kind of a fun like Clash of styles and I just he's got such a weird
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movement in the fighting um you know with the Striking and you know he's a good
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wrestler obviously I I think he's very game he's such a veteran that I have to to really just respect it and and I kind
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of just have to not think about you know the fact that I have like a win over him um I I
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just kind of have to come in here fresh and you know give him all the respect that he deserves like there's a reason why he's had what 36 UFC fights um he's
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good you know he's one of the best in the world I mean that's that's why he's in in the sport that he is and uh you
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know what got into UFC yet I think 2007 so he's been in here for however long
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and uh yeah eight yeah it's a huge opportunity C you yeah and I think Pro
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debut was 2003 so I was you know three or four like that's that's crazy you
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know it's it's cool to get the opportunity to to face a guy like this for sure is it weird facing someone that
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much older than you like do you are there aside from him being a legend like you said are there any concerns like old
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man's strength uh I mean them not making it to the fight because they break their
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hip like I don't know we're we're both we're both both like L Guida's age so we can talk [ __ ] about his age but is is
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there anything like that that concerns you going into a fight against someone that much older uh no I mean I've
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honestly been lucky enough I've never had an opponent pull out um thankfully you know knock on wood and all that but
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uh no at no point in my career have I had anybody not make it to the fight so
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that's not really been a concern I mean he's I try not to really think about the age too much like again coming in being
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like the young guy for a while I I really tried to get rid of that at least for myself like I tried to not think
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about that like because I felt that that was an excuse where you know I don't want to go into this fight being like oh
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he's older he's got miles you know I don't want to think it's gonna be a benefit for me if it you know maybe is
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not um so I'm trying to honestly I I to go into things more expecting the worst
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and then you know when something good happens then I can be pleasantly surprised you know I'm expecting him to
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be on point I'm expecting it to go all three rounds you know crazy cardio crazy Pace just wrestling the whole time and
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I'm expecting a lot of adversity and then you know if it ends up being like the last fight where you know things end
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up going my way quickly then uh that's a good night you know but uh yeah try to expect the worst and then uh hope for
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the best going back to you you know starting at such a young age and and staying in
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Washington your whole career do you or have you trained around do you have a desire to kind of expand or are you
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happy staying where where it all started no I mean I I've traveled around
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a little bit um I think it was probably damn like two three years ago at this
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point um I went out and stayed for three weeks in South Carolina training training at Wonderboy gym and I'll go
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out there occasionally um cross train with KSA and those guys they're about a four and a half hour drive they're just
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across the state from us and then uh we'll go up to Seattle and cross train
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at another gym up there like I feel like I I get plenty where I'm at and it's it's one of those things where it's I
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feel more important to have guys that you can trust and like a a good loyal team rather
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than just getting the hardest training you can like I know a lot of guys that are at you know some of those bigger gym
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and I see him getting hurt all the time because they're they're just like okay let me train with the toughest guys I can which is great but that's a lot of
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miles for for no money like you're you're getting miles put on your body
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for free you know for you know helping those guys or whatever um and there's a
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lot of guys I feel like at bigger gyms that think about it like oh if I beat you in sparring like I'm gonna get a UFC
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contract and that's that's how a lot of them approach it um from my experience a lot of Eastern European guys are hard to
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train with um so I just I like sticking with chuckle about
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yeah yeah I like sticking with the people that I can trust and like these guys that have been with me and and uh
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it's just a mutual respect of like when I have a fight they help me out and they'll you know come into the gym early
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and and give me the extra work and then when they have a fight you know I'll do the same for them like that's what I
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feel like uh a lot of times people really discount the loyal aspect of it it is an individual sport we are
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fighting you know individually it is just us but it's also the people that
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help you get there and I I feel like the biggest part of going into fights that I've realized is is the confidence
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Factor um if you go into a fight like oh just remembering all the sparring times that you got the [ __ ] kicked out of you
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I I feel like you're G to go in a little more hesitant where you know if if we're doing more technical rounds and I'm like
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okay this guy was trying to give me the specific look look and this was working that was working this was working I I
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feel like going into like the last couple weeks before a fight you should really be having guys that are willing
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to you know just give you the looks and not have so much ego like having good
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teammates that are willing to let you win um and then you know when their fights come around then you let them win
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and uh you know obviously we're still training hard these guys aren't just you know blowing smoke up my ass just making
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me feel better than I am it's just yeah I I feel like the confidence is a huge factor and I've seen guys that I watch
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them get beat up and sparring and then they have a shitty fight because of it like um even in UFC I I've seen guys do
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that and then I I watch them break mentally and and that's hard to see but uh you know not for my team so I just
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have to kind of sit and and kind of uh you know hold my hold my tongue on that one but
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yeah is there that you drew inspiration from watch you know watching from a young age um who did you look up to yeah
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I mean I I was probably around 10 or 11 when my coach was in UFC so I was you know a little kid um getting to watch
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him and you know one of his fights was in China and he got the [ __ ] kicked out of him but you know it's just the mental
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toughness factor that I feel like I really took that from him like uh I feel like he showed me what uh you know what
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it takes to you know like the the grittiness that you need to have to be a fighter and and
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uh you know I felt that he like taught me how to like be a man honestly like
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that was probably one of the better male influences my life was was my coach and then uh you know I obviously there's
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other Fighters like uh you know the Diaz brothers I love their Jiu-Jitsu style Damian Maya I always like Cerrone he's
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just a gamer um but again like a lot of these just grittier guys like I was never the best guy in the gym I mean I
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was just the one that showed up more and then uh that's you know that's the thing that's the crazy thing is like I I try
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to tell people like at the gymm I'm like hey I'm not I was never the best guy here I just kept showing up more than
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everybody else and that's that's all you got to do but um yeah I mean it's easier said than done like I I had to really
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sacrifice a lot of time with friends family that type of thing but uh I mean obviously it's worth it look at uh look
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at the life I get to live now I mean it's it's uh it's worked out so far were you ever at a big gym or did
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you always stay with your local gym and just kind of have Little Adventures uh training Adventures every now and then
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no I I've just uh been with my coach since day one and then honestly it's um I I don't think I was even I was already
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on Contender series uh it was after Contender was my first time really uh sparring at other gyms like before that
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point it was like okay we might fight this guy we might fight that guy you don't really know locally so it's it's
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hard to cross train with those guys when um you know we might end up fighting at some point um but yeah I feel like uh I
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didn't really need a ton of that and then now honestly the cross training just kind of confirms to me that like
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okay we're doing what we should be like I go to these other gyms and I'm hanging with their top guys if not you know
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beating their top guys and it's like okay perfect we're doing the good they're doing the right stuff and uh you
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know back back to the team and all that nice nice I I really love that mentality
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I feel like the big gym uh just thing that has been an MMA for a long time is
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kind of dying out I think with uh covid and with the shutdowns and stuff a lot of people ended up having the train with
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smaller groups and then ended up feeling really comfortable so it's kind of cool that you found that early especially um
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I think a lot of people were concerned because he came in so young you had a couple losses that looked like oh this
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guy is older than him so it's unfair that they're fighting each other but I
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like how you said you never used that as an excuse you never thought oh I'm I'm
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the young guy I'm not able to hang with these guys instead you just buckled down and now you're on a crazy streak so I I
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think that's really cool to see your trajectory and has that like young guy
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stigma ever annoyed you at all or do you kind of like playing into that character
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uh no I mean I feel like uh I guess I'm probably more serious than I try to let
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on um but yeah no I think I'm fine with like you know I look at the hair you
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know I look kind of you know dumb and dorky anyways like I'm I'm fine you know
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yeah you know it's adorable I want to pinch your cheeks you know like it's h
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yeah I don't know like I never thought of it as a bad thing really um more just again like not letting myself have that
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excuse um and it and it's taking examples from guys like like a Charles O
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there who just had an amazing performance this weekend or Max Holloway like Max Holloway went three and three
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in his first six UFC fights and Charles O went five and five like I just really felt that there was that huge like
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adjustment period of you know going from being a local Regional fighter and
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fighting at like a casino whatever you drive there from your house to now okay you're gonna fly in here this whole week
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is all fight related and you're going to fight on the biggest stage in the world you know my UFC debut was in T-Mobile
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Arena um so where the next fight will be which is awesome but uh it's crazy to go from a casino to you know one of the
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biggest Arenas you know like it's it's a huge step up and I don't think there's really any way to prepare for that
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pressure so it was really just you know grinding it out and uh you know yeah
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believe in myself and again not letting the age kind of uh you know be a way out
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for me and uh just buckling down and being like hey I I'm one I'm just one of these guys like I'm not I'm not the
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Young guy if anybody else wants to think that that's fine like I I feel the worst thing in this sport is for nobody to
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know or care who you are or you know what you've got going on like if there's anything that sets you apart like you
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just kind of have to lean into that and like people are gonna you know take
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what's genuine and and like that's the thing is like don't make up a Persona like be genuine but like maybe
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accentuate the points that that people seem to latch on to and and that's uh you know again it's it's seems like
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people like me so far so I'm trying to keep it going that way I love that you said that about authenticity I talk
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about that a lot like I wish Fighters would would understand that more it's not just about entertainment and selling
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yourself it's like really tapping into authenticity and who you are and promoting yourself that way it's a lot
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more um likable and and it's easier for people to connect with you in that way
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definitely um I do I do have a serious question so was the elf costume yours
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and if not did did you get to keep it do you like wear it around town the house so yeah so Fight Pass hit me up they're
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like hey would you be down to wear an elf costume in New York and I was like I
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don't see why not U so they ordered it off of Amazon they told me it was 50
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bucks it was pretty nice when I got there honestly it was pretty authentic but uh the sports bar that we
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were filming in I uh so we did it the first day and then we came back the next day to do some more stuff and I don't
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where it went between that day um so I think somebody's probably some you know
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somebody that was drunk probably just took the elf costume oh yeah I was gonna New York you can't leave anything laying
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around in New York that's all right but uh we'll see maybe I'll buy a new one
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yeah I thought for sure you'd wear it like around the house just you know having your morning coffee and my wife
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she was like do not bring that home I was going to and then it just dis appeared so I didn't have the
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opportunity but uh it was her she's the one that stole it she got a Hitman for
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the costume that yeah yeah yeah definitely did you go to the fights um in New York
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or no no we were at that same sports bar we were doing like a little watchong thing um oh okay just with Fight Pass
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you know it would have been cool to go to MSG but uh you know I'd rather get paid than anything yeah I like working I
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like I'm trying to work on uh you know getting paid for things that don't involve me getting brain trauma so you
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know trying to make myself more valuable to the company in any way I can and uh you know work on those opportunities
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when they pop up one thing I want to ask you about is uh your meet in greet with
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uh Mikey Mami you guys had like a nice little grappling session and got to
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share ideas what was that like and uh did he talk to you at all about getting signed with the UFC what that means
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because we haven't really heard that much about what Dana's planning on doing with uh grappling promotion yeah I mean
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I don't I mean he didn't say not to say any of it but um
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it I've gotta say he's the by far the best person like Jiu-Jitsu wise I've
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ever trained with and it was it's fun like it's been so long since I've been
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you know struggling with anybody like at least locally like it it's taken you know getting to
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train with some of the best in the world and then you know have him just throw me around like that even being a little
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smaller he's really crazy strong proportionally like his body and his brain are just you know maximized for
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for Jiu-Jitsu and for grappling and uh learning some cool Concepts I I'll give him a shout out if I'm able to hit the
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uh the sequence he showed me in the fight I I'll definitely give him a shout out after he mentioned uh he mentioned
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though that they're definitely trying to build up the grappling a little more something like uh maybe getting some divisions going maybe getting some uh
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some belts you know that type of thing and uh making it a little more than just
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because I think they're doing six Fight Pass invitationals next year um so plenty of opportunity to start building
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stuff up I mean this is how UFC started anyways was like really slow you know these kind of single matches something
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like that and then now we're starting to build divisions around it so yeah I mean we'll see how that t how
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that type of stuff goes but I mean they've already signed I think Mikey's the best Grappler under 185 pounds in
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the world I mean over you've got you know Gordon Ryan Craig Jones those typee of guys but as far as you know
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proportionally I I think his mental game is like insane and uh the best guy you
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know I've ever trained with obviously but uh I'm I'm really excited he's gonna be grappling on December 5th uh if I if
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I'm not too dead from the weight cut I will be dragging myself to the Apex to uh to watch for sure I got to watch a
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friend uh grapple right before one of my last fights and it was definitely like worth the trip it kind of gives you that
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chance to visualize and you see someone that you knew that you touch like go out
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there and and compete and do the thing that you're about to do in a few days so it was It was kind of nice yeah fair
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enough if you have energy I suggest you do it yeah I think I'll probably start my cut Thursday
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morning we'll see what time the grappling match is start I I went to like quintet was like a grappling show
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it it ended up being at our same hotel for my UFC debut and I I was dead for that I had such a hard time paying
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attention but uh we'll see we'll see I can save for one I'm sure exactly swoop
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in for the one and then get back to the hotel how hard is that weight cut now that you're at 55 yeah I you know it's
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funny because people are like all all the time whenever I meet people or people like oh you know like hey what's
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up Chase like they're like you're a lot bigger than I thought you'd be um you know on the internet people are like oh
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he's 55 pounds like he doesn't look like that he looks like he needs to put on weight like people were were saying like
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oh he's gonna be too small to go up but that's just the fans they they see you skinny you know like in the fight
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pictures whatever but uh no I I I feel like I definitely gained a little weight
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you know going through the puberty and all that um yeah I mean my Contender fight was my
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first fight at 45 and I was 18 you know I was probably walking at 165 and then now throw at least another lbs on top of
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that you know and then it was hard to make 45 from there um so 55 made a ton
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of sense and I I still cut about the same amount in water um but obviously I put on a
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little more muscle um and yeah I cut about the same in water but it it really wasn't too bad
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I feel like the performance Institute really helps um as long as I go into
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fight week no higher than 175 I I feel pretty cozy um I feel like it's a pretty
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easy weight cut like just the water load protocol they've given me and like I'm sure you guys have had you know the the
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food and stuff from performance Institute I don't really know what type of magic they pull with that but uh you
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know not a lot they don't put any salt in it I think that's what it is I think that's
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the key because you go to any restaurant and you ask for a chicken breast there's going to be salt in it it's impossible
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not to get salt on things yeah yeah no I mean it's so helpful to just not even
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have to think about like okay how am I going to make weight and then also still eat or am I just G to starve myself all
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week you know so it's it's so helpful to have them and then uh you know they do little stuff like uh they'll give you
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little like kind of sweet tasting type things like the little pre-workout bars
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or whatever yeah and peanut butter mousse it was
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really good oh yeah yeah that's the pudding the pudding's good yeah that's the stuff I'm looking forward to here in
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what two weeks I'm trying to keep the sugar right now yeah yeah it's gonna
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taste real good then if you're not eating anything sweet right now yeah then I'm gonna go hard after
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weigh-ins and we'll be back up do you have any like do you have any
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dream submissions that you've been wanting to hit in a fight like what would be the most amazing finish for you
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I think a fun one would be a banana split I think uh all the wrestlers I feel like I get so
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much props from wrestlers when I start attacking banana splits and uh yeah I
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mean it's it's something that's it's interesting how quickly people will tap when they start feeling the tearing
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sensation like in their groin um but I think you know that'd be a fun one like
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why why not it's it's funny it's it's a good time and uh yeah everybody loves a
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banana split it sucks it's so demeaning though like you they'll let their I my
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theory is if you get someone in a good Banana Split they'll let their groin tear before facing the consequences of
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tapping to a banana split that's fair I guess we'll see how tight Clay's hips are I think uh oh I like
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it I got pretty close I got pretty close when we grappled but ah
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nice interesting that that should be a good prop bet we should tell du bits about
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that that yes yeah Banana Split finished I don't
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know watch out for the FBI but yeah fair
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enough um well thank you so much for joining us and taking the time I know
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you're close to your fight and you have a lot to focus on uh but we really do appreciate you joining us yeah thanks so
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much for having me I appreciate it glad I was able to find somewhere with some internet and uh yeah thanks for having
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me yeah thanks for explaining Mr hands to Jess too I'm sure she's gonna have lovely nightmares about that now yeah
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you can Google if you want or I would probably suggest not no no I have to now
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it's gonna be the first thing I do oh
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no thanks man take care good luck have fun out there all right we'll do
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it oh that funny I can't believe you never heard of that before how would I
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have heard of it it's famous it's Famous online it's one of those dark online
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secret things that only dark online people know
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about stays stays pretty consistent with like cute animal videos not
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like animal slaughtering humans I think I think the Mr hands video existed
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before algorithms were a thing ah yeah they really had to look for it
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that's when the internet was really dark now now we can steer clear of that kind
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of stuff now we sweep it yeah cool well thank you everyone for
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joining us this has been another episode of two straws catch us next time as we break down and recap uh this weekend's
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UFC we have who do we oh my God who do oh we have Figaro and Yan sorry I left you hang oh no no no no no because we're
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still talking thought you were Clos it out yeah we have figur and Yan and then we have Yan
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and uh REI so it's a double Yan party yes and we've already put our dual bits
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predictions down we're going um figuro Yan
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[Music] and you know the other ones I just went with you because I was like I don't know
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who the wait wait wait hold that thought
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little dance we're doing and salikov yes
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