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Christmas Q&A w/ UFC vets Angela Hill and Jessica Penne
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Jan 20, 2025
Hello to our favorite friends... and everyone else seeing this Christmas day. We love you too but not as much and the coal in your stocking this year definitely wasn't from us. To ALL our followers, thank you so much for your eyeballs and ears! If we grow even half as much in 2025 as we did this year we may be able to make this thing another career! Wishing all the best for all of you this holiday season, even the ones with androids. 00:00 Member giveaway!!!!! End Dec 31st so join to enter! (link below!) 04:10 MOAR FAN QUESTIONS. What rules UFC would we change? 09:57 Should they restart fights that the referee stops controversially? 18:03 We need review boards for judges and referees!! 25:00 How hard is it to recover? Well be careful when doing it with Vicodin, Jess explains why 💩 31:50 Recovering as a female fighter is a little different as well. 35:45 Butcher picks our final question. Whats the most stressful thing to deal with as a fighter? 41:00 See you in the new year! Powered by Duelbits. Join us: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join
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though we talk [ __ ] about your phone um we got more questions by the way oh we have a lot more questions yeah from our
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phones I don't know where my phone is oh well oh there it is that's a common
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problem where's my phone all right what rules would you
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change in UFC MMA if you had the power love the podcast by the way thank you
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thank you Shadow King 2477 Shadow King yes uh yeah so what rules well I I
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think that they the new rule changes I think are exciting and very necessary I
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think those were rules that have needed to be changed for a really long time I can't wait to use
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them I can't I'm so excited about using those new rules I think I would have
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even though like I think we came to a comfortable Middle Ground um but I would have loved if they brought back like
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Soccer Kicks like Pride yeah but I think the the new rules version is a good
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middle ground where no one's going to get [ __ ] up to the point where they're in a coma for me as a bottom player for
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life it's not going to change guys Everyone likes that everyone loves a bottom player
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there's a lot of tops in this world uh put your coffee down oh my god um
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almost ruined my roadcast I've always wanted to be able to like kick somebody from my back you
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know while they're like technically as a d that's something that I've always wanted to do there was this amazing fight I think it was um Anderson Silva
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was fighting Okami I think in Pride that was his one loss right
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yeah all the other losses yeah so he was playing guard and he grabbed okami's
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hands and up kicked him kicked him straight in the face and it seemed perfectly legal to like an innocent
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bystander who would just be like yeah he was on top of him yeah why couldn't he kick him in the face I should be able to
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do that I always wanted to do that I think that would play so well into my game I'm here for it yeah I uh I
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allegedly did it to Michelle Waterson when we fought I it was the neck it was a push to the neck and it slid up to her
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face but it was the connection the impact was here and then it slid up but
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uh you know they were really mad at me for doing that and so I was like sorry
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but I always felt like that is one of those moves that should be allowed because it's like okay if they're on top
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of me and they're trying to jump on top of me and punch my head into the ground I should be able to launch them with my
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feet yeah wherever I choose yeah can kick anywhere else um but anywhere from
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the chin up is a no no zone so yeah I agree I'm for it I love that rule change
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um I'm trying to think what else I think the point deduction after missing weight
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is a good one oh like you start at complete deficit that's interesting yeah
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so um they actually do this in the pfl yeah yeah yeah where and I think it happened to Liz CaRu she missed weight
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and she in her NE in the fight that she missed wa for she was deducted a point from the scorecard and she fought this
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the fight and I think the point deduction uh led her
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to win lose I don't know anyway it made it more even it definitely made the
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fight more even because she um had that point deduction fight and then you see
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in a lot of fights like uh Randy Brown versus uh versus uh your boy um Brian
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battle a lot of fights where it's super close that little Point deduction can
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make a world difference I think I like the idea of the replay being used without stopping
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the fight yeah I would really like to see that because I think it could be I thought that was a rule that they used
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but then it stops the fight no they usually use the replay like they Ed a replay to figure out if a
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foul happened but the fight has to keep going like that's what so they use that little
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uh they do this with a hand so whenever you're watching um fights and something weird happens like a needed a face but
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the fight fighters keep fighting they'll do this and uh and that's a cue for the
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people in the like room to get a bunch of angles from that moment to make sure that it was legal or not okay so they do
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that but they I feel like there's something weird with the rules where yeah like
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stops the fight when the fight stops you you should be able to restart it like if
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the fight stops then there's no restarting the fight yeah that's what I want to be able to do I think that we
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should be able to see if it was a foul or or whatever we're trying to look at and after we figure it out we can keep
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going well that that actually happens I think it's when the person can't continue anymore or they're saying they
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can't continue that the fight actually ends at that moment but if it's a foul
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and the fight was stopped and the person can't go or they can go then the fight
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restarts like we've seen that recently where the person can continue fighting
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and they pause the action because of what happened was really bad and if it was a foul it restarts if it wasn't a
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foul it's done yeah like if it was legal and the person milks it then it's done
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yeah so yeah I feel like there's a little bit more that could go on with that one so
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like if it's a legal strike and they stop it because the person cowers and
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covers up as if they got knocked out do you think that that fight should
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continue or do you think that's a knockout I think it should continue yeah even if it's like a punch to the face um
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they're basically knocked out because they stop fighting and they're like H
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and the ref jumps in because they stopped fighting and then you look at the replay and it was a legitimate punch
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in the face not a eye poke not no that can happen like I get that but there there have been some like Taps where it
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wasn't a tap or taps okay that that's different yeah and and like replay isn't
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used on that and like somebody immediately complains yeah like no this didn't happen this didn't happen like
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why can't we use Replay for that okay that's why I'm so confused because like
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with the strikes it's pretty they have it pretty uh good now where with strikes it's like
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okay if you hit him in the grin this fight is is a no contest because this person can't fight anymore or the fight
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keeps going if the person says they can keep fighting but you're going to get a warning or you're going to get a point
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deducted or something but uh yeah if it's not a groin hit then it's a KO or
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it should be a Koo sometimes they restart the fight when it's not a foul and I'm like that's a that's a KO
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because they hit him in the lever technically like uh uh our girl uh Elise ellene remember she um she got kicked
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right in the or oh in the wait what happened she yeah that should have been it wasn't
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but it should have been yeah she got hit right in the liver she grabbed her crotch and fell over and uh and they let
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the fight continue where it's like no that should be a TKO so it's they're not always going the way that I feel like
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the rules are written that they should go um and it's it's weird weird yeah it is definitely a great area I feel like
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it should be utilized a little bit more especially with when people are like I
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was fine I didn't tap I didn't do this I didn't do this why can't we look at the
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replay and then restart the fight yeah um who was it
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um who was it uh who uh famously didn't tap to uh what's his name he famously
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didn't tap to homeboy that need in the face by masvidal by masal oh
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um Hooper's Dad yeah Asen yes Ben Asen
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was fighting uh Robbie Lawler and he didn't tap he didn't even move he didn't
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FL he was he was like giving a thumbs up even and Herb didn't see the thumbs up and he broke them and immediately he's
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just like you should be able to restart that yes you should be able to restart it I don't know what position you can
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restart that in um in Jiu-Jitsu they have this weird thing where it's like if you're deep in a submission and you roll
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out of bounds then you get two points but they can't restart you in the submission because you're either going
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to tap them immediately or it's not going to be the same bite but uh you
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should you should definitely restart them in that position I'm just not sure how you how you make it so it's fair to
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the person who has the submission in so deep you know what I mean do you just give them the position again
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I feel like you could give them somewhat of the starting position again but maybe it's in a more
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neutral way so if you were on bottom and
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you had something locked in maybe you can choose to just start standing maybe you can choose to have like a similar
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position as as close to possible as you can right um like they restart you in Jiu-Jitsu sometimes they try to like
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emulate the position yeah but uh if it's like deep in a submission to the point where you think
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they're tapping it's uh yeah I guess you're just going to have to or you could just like wave it and
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just be like listen you guys start a neutral position again yeah but I just want the fight to be able to continue because there are so many like bad ref
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calls that could easily you could just go back and look and be like oh yeah they didn't they didn't tap oh they were
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actually fine they were actually waving it off or they were doing this and doing that I just think that there could be
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more utilization and I know it gets more complex than just saying like hey we should use we play and like you know
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have the fight continue I understand that but I think it's something that could really change the landscape of
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people's fights and careers no for sure um I think uh the guy that chase Hooper
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fought um he would have lovesy or uh what was his name laava Claus I was way
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off um yeah but he he's you know that one stuck out in my mind because we just
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interviewed Chase and you know we were talking about that so I feel like that
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would you know be a candidate for that yeah for sure imagine imagine if they
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stopped Brian Ortega fight uh versus volkanovski in that moment because he
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was gurgling they they talk about verbal submissions he was gurgling you know
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trying he was in danger he was in danger he was getting choked the [ __ ] out and then he was able to you know uses
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extreme traps to pop himself out of he's probably the only guy who can ense his
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neck in order to get out of a guillotine
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yeah yeah that was amazing yeah if they they could have stopped that and it
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would have gone the same way as a lot of people's fights who have been mistakenly
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submitted when they actually weren't so I I totally agree with that I just was thinking about a totally different set
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situations but I totally agree you should be able to restart it I wouldn't mind like especially if I was getting
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submitted and they restarted the person in the submission that they had I kind
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of wouldn't mind it because it still gives me an inch of breath sure you know what I mean like if I'm stuck in that
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Dar and they stop it and I'm like what are you doing and then they restart me
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right back in that Dar at least I had a few moments to complain to get the blood
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back to my head so I'm kind of happy as the bottom person because I get another chance of survival I was probably about
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to go out I probably had my hand hovering and for them to give me that little second to breathe and get the
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blood back to my brain I'll probably end up getting out I just feel B bad for the top person but at least they're still in
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that top position where they can just think about the next move now so I think it's fair I think we should do that I uh
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hereby pledge for that rule to be brought in to
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202's MMA Rules meeting let's go I decree that we should be able to
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restart fights that we're mistakenly I feel like when we actually retire it's going to be really
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obnoxious we're not going to shut up cuz there's no consequence of star actions and we're going to be so
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bored we got time Jess did you call your uh
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Congressman yet I'm on it on it I already left 20
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[Laughter] messages oh man yeah it's going to be great we're going make a lot of
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changes maybe or there just block our numbers but I got I got different lines
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honey I got business line we got a freaking land line I don't care you got Alabama lines exactly exactly I got I
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got a land line in Alabama yeah let's go nobody's answering but it's there
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that's great well yeah I think those some good Rule changes I think so all
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right uh moving on we have uh Freddy Mack 327 the athletic commission annoys
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me hey me too her too uh we could start a support group does yeah so the
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athletic commission annoys me with their un unwillingness to correct or rule no
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contest on obvious referee airs I think a review board consisting entirely of referees should be created to make final
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decisions on challenged decisions from judges or referees heirs um as Fighters what impact do you think something like
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that would have on the sport of MMA pros and cons that's amazing I feel like he just was sitting here listening to our
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conversation and came up with that question I thought it was a nice segue yeah good job good job good job Mac and
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Jess um I I think that's a great idea um the the only con I could of that is you
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know referees sticking up for one another I think it would be really hard to throw one of
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your uh I don't know what you call them one of your colleagues under the bus and
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it's very much a like point at this guy and reprimand him for the bad decision he made kind of thing I think if there
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was a way to make it so that that referee didn't didn't get the book
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thrown at them for being accused of not doing something the way that they should have because it is a it is a a tough job
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to do like they're just as hard as it is for us to make the right decision when
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trying to beat someone up it's hard for them to make the right decision on is this person concussed is this person
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unable to fight back are they tapping are can they not tap because their arms are being controlled are they yelling at
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me that they're tapping like there's a lot going on it's really loud in there it's their job to know what's happening
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but human era is a very human thing so I don't think that it's right to just like
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like the herb D Dean one that I mentioned earlier I don't think that Herb Dean should stop rafine because of
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that one mistake or all the other mistakes that he's made I just think that there's a way I think it would make
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it more comfortable for them to make these decisions if there was a way to
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not make it permanent mm you know what I mean like uh when a ref stops a fight
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like you were saying especially in the past with strikes too when a ref stops the fight then it's permanently stopped
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there's no restarting that fight now we have the replays and stuff so we can restart it with strikes and with uh foul
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shots but with the tapping thing there's still that issue where if they stop the fight because of uh a tap that didn't
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happen the fight still stopped so I think uh it would take the pressure off
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a little bit if there was a way to call that fight a no contest as opposed to a
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loss for this fighter that they probably respect a lot and they thought they were helping them out by saving them from you
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know permanent brain damage from being being you know unconscious for a long time we sign a waiver we sign a waiver
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we sign a waiver that says we're okay if we die it's literally in the contract I mean so let us fight to the death I do
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get chills down my spine though when I see these videos of people getting choked out unconscious and then people
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don't realize that they're unconscious and then their body starts convulsing and you're watching someone die yeah so
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there's a lot of stress when it comes to the person who's in charge of saying is this person dying yet you
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know I don't think so I think there's still a very it's a very high stress job
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and they take it seriously and I I do appreciate that they take it so seriously and they do get into re action
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at times because they care so much about a fighter safety I think that's that's something that we need because we're in
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a very dangerous line of work um however the the Human air thing the emotions the
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the reactions can change the course of somebody's career yeah so I I think a board would definitely be helpful um a
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board for everyone a board for the judges especially we've talked about this and I think that you know every
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every six months I know we've talked about this before every six months you know you go into review you have to take a test you have to watch some fights and
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you basically take quizzes just to keep your skills sharp yeah take a driver's test only driving a fight card a fight
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scorecard how do you know oh you ran into all the cones you can't parallel
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park for [ __ ] [ __ ] you're out of here grandma s see in
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six months yeah leave your license at the door so we can cut it up in front of you yeah they like the judges especially
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I feel like the refs do less harm than the judges right now in MMA um every now
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and then you get the refs kind of getting in the way or or being a little too visible when there isn't much
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happening or not doing enough not taking a point away not controlling the fight I
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think a good example of a good ref is um when cop was fighting MV and he had to
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literally yell at them like little kids like not cop but uh MV was just doing
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all the all these things just to be a dick you know pulling his pants down F not stopping when he would tell him off
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uh not looking at him and listening to him was that beltron yeah it was beltron could you imagine getting scolded by
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beltron dude and he's the nicest guy ever but inside there he is an imposing
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figure he is like makave makv is undefeated but he's all of 4 foot tall
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he you could tell when he when he finally looked belron in the eyes he was
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like oh [ __ ] okay sir sorry sorry sir the only thing he didn't do that I
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would have wanted him to do is take a point away but aside from that I feel like that you have to demand respect in
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there because it's uh you know you're in contr you're in control and in charge of
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each fighter safety so uh I think a lot of times referees can be intimidated by
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the fighters and let things go on too long or let let Riff Raff happen that if
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they don't nip it in the bud right away is going to be the whole tale of the entire fight so yeah I like uh I like
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having a board of refs um but I think judging definitely has done more damage
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for people's career recently than the referee in has and I would like a board
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for the judges as well as the referees yes every everybody a board for you and a board for you everyone needs a board
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yeah all right our next question from Marcus mustard
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8285 um how is it recovering after a tough fight I would take vikin in for a
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week straight you wouldn't [ __ ] you wouldn't poop for two months
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yeah don't forget the stool softener with that true story seriously don't
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tell me tell me your story oh man oh you have a good one I've never
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actually taken vikin in but I I actually don't like medication yeah me neither um
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I've I've had surgeries and not taken a pill whatsoever damn but the first um
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the first time I I had my nose fixed it was um um rhino and septoplasty oo and
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the first day um of recovery my my dad was taking care of me I was at his house
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um I surgery up in Beverly Hills and he he like begged me just to take the
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medicine he said listen what were you doing to him I don't need it Dad I
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don't no he's like you just need to be able to chill out and go to sleep you know so I I took um a vikin in her or
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whatever it was and I did not go to the bathroom for
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several days oh and I had only taken one and I you know I was I was eating very
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like mushy food and and you know drinking plenty of water and like I got super backed up and I woke up in the
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middle of the night in hot sweats like my body was like in toxic shock like I
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was having the worst time and I can't believe I'm going to say this on film
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let's hear it but I I had to like I stumbled to the bathroom like I I was really kind of scared that how my body
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was reacting um I like I was sweating puddles and my body is shaking and so I'm like sitting
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on the toilet and I'm like trying to like get the stuff out of me I had to
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help it out yeah no I almost I was almost going to call
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like an ambulance like I was not okay I was like I can laugh at this now because
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it's been almost 10 years but it was really [ __ ] scary that's horrible I was in a lot of pain and I was very very
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scared and it was the middle of the night and I was all alone and I didn't want to bother anyone because Dad can
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you stick your hand on my butt yeah man it was it was pretty scary damn yeah so
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uh the only reason I know that is because Adam had surgery on his elbow and that was the first time he had had
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surgery so he took a bike it in too because they're like oh everyone talks about this being great so yeah take a
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bike and and and the same thing happened to him and he was just like backed up for days and and it's the same thing
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like eventually your body has to get rid of it otherwise you feel like you're going to die my body was sending out the
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alerts oh that sounds horrible it was red alert I I have been like happy not
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to take anything ever since seeing that seeing someone go through that but yeah
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that's sucks but you have to use like a a wooden spoon or something no well I'm sitting on the
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toilet and and there were there were wipes so I just grabbed some whites and
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started digging in no I'm not kidding you I'm not kidding you I was traumatized
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horrible thing I'm sorry you went through that thank you [ __ ] it was
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really rough it was very traumatic um I was very scared and then you know the the next morning after you know I I woke
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up thank God I woke up alive thought I was going to die like just poison the
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inside poop coming out of your ears and nose cuz it couldn't find anywhere else to go yeah and I was I was telling um I
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was telling my dad about it and he's like why didn't you like yell for me why didn't you call for me I'm like
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really no a that sucks man yeah yeah well next
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time you'll know next time I'll know he'll be okay with a little poop as long as his daughter is alive when he wakes
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up it's like w be the first time you wiped your
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ass probably the last but not the first recovering from a fight can be
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pretty brutal oh God yeah it it can be um it can be a
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little lonely a little sad a little um anticlimactic you know you want to go celebrate after a fight whether you win
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or lose like there is a celebration because you just went through something like really challenging you put in a lot of effort and there's a lot to be like
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grateful for and celebr and if you're [ __ ] up after a fight it kind of kind of takes the the wind out
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of your sales a little bit it does for for me at least it does I don't know about for other people some people are like yeah look at me I just fought yeah
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right you should see the other girl everyone thought she won cuz I'm really [ __ ]
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up no it's definitely it definitely feels like that I I don't know I think um I think the biggest surprise for me
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was like the post-win funk that you get is like you win the fight and you're
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like oh everything's going to be different and this is going to happen and that's going to happen it's like no
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same [ __ ] same [ __ ] different day yeah you're just a little happier when you see photos from your fight as opposed to
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if you lost yeah and you go back to the gym you get a couple like handshakes high fives and hugs and then it's you're
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a normal person again yeah so it's really tough dealing with the mental part for sure um but physically I think
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um my recovery is like anti- recovery like I eat like [ __ ] I drink a lot
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usually usually I'll be like sober for at least a month before my fight so right afterwards I I have a beer in my
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hand a whiskey I'm eating I swell up because you know you're BR putting all
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this salt and alcohol in your body that you haven't really had in a long time and so I don't know if that helps or
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hurts but once I get back to the gym Everything feels a little more stiff a
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little more rickety your ligaments are a little tighter it's tough yeah you you
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definitely need to take time off every now and then you'll get in a fight and uh you'll be lucky enough to just have a
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couple bumps from like hitting a person you're fine you know like win or lose a
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lot of times this happen with me and you're able to jump into the gym right away but uh yeah those rough ones I
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think I think uh when you get hit in the face a lot too that part can be tough
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for a girl because when people see a guy with a black eye they're like eh you
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don't have like an emotional reaction to it but when you see a woman like in a
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grocery store with a black eye a lot of reactions a lot of yeah there's just
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it's a different it it makes me feel like I don't want to leave the house yeah you win or lose if my face is
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bruised I just hibernate yeah you don't want people looking at you creating
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stories you know how people always go like oh the cute couple and in the romantic comedy they're like what do you
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think that woman story is and it's like if it was me after a fight they' be like
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that [ __ ] is getting abused she didn't wash the dishes she her sandwiches suck
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[Music] like that's her story that's the only story it could be cuz she can't possibly
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be a fighter you know and uh that's just kind of how it goes there was did I ever tell you about uh the cute little young
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kids um walking or walking past me and Adam after a fight once I'm not sure
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remind me oh we were in well when I first started fighting um I lived in New York and Adam worked in Brooklyn he
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worked at his restaurant in Brooklyn so um I had just won a fight so I was all like proudly brandishing my black eye
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and I'm walking Adam to his job and these like young like black kids like
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these little boys they were walking the opposite way and they see me and Adam walking and so on my way back to the
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subway station they're like heyo ma ma and I'm like here we
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go cuz you know I was a young hot thing then I'm like here we go and he Yo Ma
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you all right Ma and I was like oh my God they cared they care they want to
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make sure the white man wasn't beating me up oh Plus's their heart there's so
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so sweet and I was like oh I'm fine I I I fought someone yesterday and they're like oh okay they're like oh you win and
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I was like yeah and that's the thing that sucks too if you can't use that explanation when you lost cuz you know
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they're going to ask did you win ran into a wall yes I got in a car accident it was
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a door knob we don't talk about it if we lose yeah no I'm not going to tell you I got
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in a fight or or they say do you win and I'm like what walk away oh I got a phone
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call bye they don't need to know anyway I
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thought that was really sweet but yeah it's different for women after a fight it is there's yeah just people um people
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people look and make assumptions and then it creates this energy of just un
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uncomfortableness yeah I do it too even though I know plenty of girls
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with black eyes often is like if they're not in the gym then I'm like what happened even like when I when
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I get to the uh get to Alliance you know I'm going to grappling and one of the Jiu-Jitsu girls have a black eye I'm
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like who did that to you no what happen you shouldn't be getting black eyes you
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roll doesn't make sense it can happen there too it it it happens more often there for you by your own knee
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yeah or by the person you weren't even rolling with yeah just catch catch a heel to the
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face that happens way too often some spunky purple belts taking up all the matte space damn purple belts well uh
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let's do one more question before we leave our our uh lovely listeners with
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their families for the rest of the holiday season oh my God excuse me sir thank you thank you very much buter do
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you want to pick a question do you want to pick a question for you want to pick a question
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what okay um Astro K who is a member than
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girl um what's more stressful needing to win fights EOC politics physical demands
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of the sport promoting yourself or the mental demands of the sport gez Jesus Christ all of them yeah definitely e all
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of the above all of the above uh because one one thing can affect everything it's
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a it's a domino effect so yeah a lot of things have to be in order for things to
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go right sometimes um and I mean yeah we most importantly we need to win the
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fight um sometimes you have to be a politician you have to uh get healthy or
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you have to be healthy you know to do well in fights usually uh you have to promote yourself to get the big fights
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then you need to win them um it's just it's it's all-encompassing and it's very
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challenging and I don't necessarily know that there any like right or wrong way
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to do it it's just what works best for that person and and where they're at and you know what's what's happening it's
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just it's a lot what I like about that question is that you understand 90% of
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the stresses that go into being an MMA fighter especially at that level and uh
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the politics is a huge part of it too I I found myself really um distracted by
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the politics when I first got into the UFC and I feel like that might have hindered me a bit in my performance es
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because I would be looking at the opportunities other people got who are at the same level as me or or looking at
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uh you know like why why did this person get cut and I didn't you know and there was it can be distracting when
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ultimately if you win then something good will happen so I think the thing
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that should stress you out but not really stress you out but should be the priority on that list is winning yeah
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and like look at someone like Harris you know she won so much in a promotion
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where people thought she was going to ride away in it that she was able to leave that promotion and go to the UFC
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and now she's on her way to fighting a title fight and this is after losing too so I think the biggest uh especially as
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a young athlete the biggest concern should be doing everything that you can do to win consistently and uh eventually
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all that other stuff will fall into place um a lot of people do this by different
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ways though like some people pick their fights better you know some people are
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able to uh some people have the I guess the privilege to pick their
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fights some people are managed by the promotion owner yes that's very helpful
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good job yeah and good job well done these things lead to you winning the fights and that goes back to my theory
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that winning the fights should be the top of the priority and then everything else will fall into place but like yeah
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all that stuff is such a distraction I feel like it is that's that's the word right there it's a distraction because
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the most important thing as you just said is winning a fight but all of those things can blur and skew things in a way
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that will distract you from winning a fight yeah it can really take you out of your game yeah and stress is like the
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last thing you want to Harbor you know you don't want to allow the stress to
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affect things in a negative way so I think uh putting weight on prioritizing
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winning has helped me in in uh in more recent times but like before um I think
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it it could definitely get in the way and and make situations seem a lot more stressful than they actually are so it's
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it's a it's a tough one being a fighter because fighting in itself is so emotional you know like you're think
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about any time as a regular person that you felt like you were about to get in a
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fight you were probably like you know you're not going to get in a fight for fun we we are not Brad Pit you know like
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we're not like in Fight Club like let's get in a fight it'll be fun like anytime you're about to get in a fight on the
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streets because there is a lot of emotional things happening emotional stressors that led you to that
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conclusion so getting yourself there without that is tough like that being
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the sport is really tough and being able to control every other thing that
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stresses you out about fighting um I don't know it just I I feel like it just exasperates it yeah so thank you Astro k
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for being a member asking a very educated question you are on the top of
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Santa's good girl list or guy I don't I'm not sure I feel like that's a she's
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lady yes that's we're very glass of wine my girl
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yeah all right well this has been another two straws um we're going to be
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back in the new year to talk about all the fights coming up first card of the
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yearo led by the women talk about woke UFC
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yeah ufw WFC
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oh I love it uh we'll be back to talk about that card give you our predictions
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and uh yeah can't wait for it see you in the new year
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