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hi this is Don Robinson and welcome to
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my deep wreck diver Channel today's
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video is all about the challenges posed
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by long periods of decompression in
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tidal waters you'll have heard me in my
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other videos talk about the lazy shot
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system well I hope that this will
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explain exactly what it is for those of
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you who've asked me questions on my uh
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YouTube post I think I've covered a lot
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of it during the uh during the contents
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of the video but what I've done is added
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a special section at the end which has
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got um specific answers to your
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questions so if you hang on in there
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you'll find them anyway on with the
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video around the United Kingdom and the
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British Isles there are normally two
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windows of slack one sometime after high
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water and one sometime after low water
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and typically those are when you'll dive
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so you'll do the Dive In the period of
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slack when there's no tidal movements
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but then what happens is once you've
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been on under water for a period of time
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the tide will pick up again and the
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current will get strong so when you do
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your decompression well let's say you've
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got two or maybe three hours you're in
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water that is moving basically you have
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two options one option is to hang on to
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some sort of fixed line inside the
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current so you you remain there for the
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period of your decompression holding on
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to the line while the current comes past
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you now clearly that's going to be hard
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work but there are systems for dealing
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with that such as things like John lines
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are very popular on certain dive sites
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but that's not what we do not least
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because it's uncomfortable and if you
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have large numbers of people on the same
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line then clearly they can start to get
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in each other's way the other option is
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to move with the current and there's
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different ways of doing that typically
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uh for sh periods where you don't have
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much decompression people will put up a
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delayed SMB and then people will drift
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under their delayed SB and when they um
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when the decompression is done they can
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come up to the surface now that works
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fine for relatively short periods of
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decompression but once you get into
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multiple hours then the risk is that the
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uh divers become separated from the boat
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if you've got eight or 10 divers all
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under delayed smbs they can become
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scattered by you know potentially even
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miles and therefore a boat cannot track
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them cannot follow them
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so basically what we need is a system
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that keeps all the divers together for
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several hours while they float in the
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current and that's exactly what a lazy
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shot provides so what does a lazy shot
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system look like well to start with
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you're going to have a shotline as you
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would on any other dive then at about
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half the maximum depth of the dive
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you're going to have the lazy shot set
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up this will be attached to the main
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shotline via a quick release you'll see
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in lots of my videos that we use a
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little PRC knot to do this that just
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make sure the lazy shot stays at the
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depth at which you want it then as
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divers go past they each attach a tag
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onto the lazy shot quick release once
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they've completed their dive they return
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to the shot and Ascend up and remove
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their tag one at a time until the last
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diver once they've removed their tag
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they know that all the other divers are
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above them on the easy shot and they can
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release the quick release which will
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then float with the current with all the
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divers above them the boat follows the
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lazy shot once it's been released and
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then picks up the divers as they
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complete their decompression so that's
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explained what a lazy shot system is and
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how it's supposed to work obviously
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there's always a few occasions when
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things don't go quite as planned and
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probably the most common one or or the
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one that is you know most commonly
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talked about is where a diver doesn't
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get back to the uh the lazy shot and
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doesn't remove their tag so that's
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exactly what's happening in this piece
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of video we're looking at now I happened
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to know that myself and my buddy there
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are the last two divers on the wreck
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because there was no more strobes but
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we've got up to the uh the quick release
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and there are three tags when there
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should be only two so we followed the
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protocol we've left the tag and we've
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carried on up the ascending up the
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shotline so the next bit of the protocol
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is what you have to do is wait for a
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certain amount of time and count the
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other divers so you can see here I've
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come up quite a way got to about 12 or
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13 MERS most of the other divers are
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there I'm communicating with one of the
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other divers and we're basically having
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a discussion about what's going on
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unfortunately I can't actually see what
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the other divers you know saying with
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their hands they're a bit above me they
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got dark gloves on so I can't see um
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what then happens is a few minutes later
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on I've come up a bit further and we're
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going to resume the conversation and the
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reason we're resuming the conversation
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is this is the depth at which the break
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in the lazy shot is so um the actual
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quick release is is clearly a long way
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below us now but in the in the line is a
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is is a break where we can if we need
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sever the lazy shot so what we're going
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to do now is this diver is telling me
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that uh one of the divers is back on the
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went up without you know he's figured
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out that they went up without removing
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their lazy without removing their tag so
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we know that uh everybody is in the
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right place and what I'm going to do now
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is uh is move in and cut the uh the weak
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Link in the lazy shot you know act
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effectively activate the the break so
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that we can uh we can start drifting
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because the current has started to pick
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up here now there's different ways of
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having breaks in a lazy shot some people
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have a another quick release clip that's
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shallow other people uh do what we're
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going to do here which is uh there's a a
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thin bit of string and you can see there
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that I've just told that diver that I'm
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going to cut it and if they want to hold
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on they need to be above it so uh as you
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can see now I'm about to get out my uh
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my knife and I'm going to cut the um I'm
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going to cut the weak link that means
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that the lazy shot uh is going to now go
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into the current you know the bit that's
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above this brake the bit that's below
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the brake is going to remain attached to
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uh to the the main shotline which is
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normally recovered by the boat but we're
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okay all the divers are together we're
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all drifting on the uh with the lazy
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shot and we can carry on and do our
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decompression now so this um procedure
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if not all divers get back to the lazy
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shot is really important normally it is
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done on time I.E if everybody is not
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back on the lazy shot within 30 minutes
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or 45 minutes or whatever then the lazy
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shot um gets released at the shallow
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break so that is that's the protocol and
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um you know pretty much everybody using
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a lazy shot system will do that it's
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also important obviously that everybody
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understands the importance of getting
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back to the shot and the lazy shot and
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also the fact that there is a protocol
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and if they're not back after X amount
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of time the lazy shot will be released
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and therefore they will have to put up a
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delayed SMB and drift with the current
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and effectively uh take their chances so
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it's it's a really important part of
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this kind of diving to get back to the
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lazy shot the other thing you can do
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with a lazy shot is combine it with
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decompression systems such as a trapeze
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and that's exactly what you can see
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going on here the uh the Rope going down
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uh at the bottom of the trapeze is
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actually the The Lazy shot and the quick
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release is at the bottom of it the other
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thing that sometimes happens is people
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will uh will get on the lazy shot the
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lazy shot will be released and then
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people will put up delayed smbs and that
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works really well because all the
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delayed SBS are together they're all
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next to the boy at the top of the lazy
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shot and therefore it's really easy for
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the boat to follow obviously the people
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on the delayed s smbs have to pay
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attention to where the main lazy
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shotline is and just kind of keep it in
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in view if if they don't do that then
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obviously there is a risk of Separation
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but it is a a technique that works
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really well particularly if you don't
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have a trapeze or if the trapeze isn't
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big enough to get everyone on it so at
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the beginning of the video I said that
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I'd be answering some of the questions
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that you uh you sent in or you put on my
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uh on the comments on on the post about
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this and this is the the first one I got
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from Samantha cool beans and she wants
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to know what happens is if you've
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disconnected and the lazy shot is
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drifting and then somehow you um you
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sense that you're losing it or you've
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lost it what do you do well as she
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suggests I mean the first thing you
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should do is try and if you can see
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where it is you want to try and Chase it
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because you want to stay with the lazy
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shot on the other divers but if you're
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not able to do it and you do lose the
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lazy shot then the only thing really you
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can put do is put up your delayed SMB
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and hope that you're close enough to the
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lazy shot that the boat can keep an eye
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on both of you so the next question is
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from raving monster who's asking how the
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trapeze is connected to the lazy shot
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well I think I've just shown you that in
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uh earlier on so basically the The Lazy
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shot has a line that goes up to the
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trapeze and normally the line has a clip
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at both ends so the quick release at the
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bottom of the lazy shot that goes onto
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the PRC and a clip at the top that goes
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to the trapeze effectively the trapeze
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forms part of the lazy shots so that's
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fairly straightforward second question
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there is about how you um you know
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whether there's much drag when you take
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the trape in and the short answer to
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this question is no and there's two
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reasons for that the first is that
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there's almost certainly no current when
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you go in because the Skipper's putting
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you in on slack and the second thing is
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whatever current there is the skipper is
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going to drop you Upstream of it so the
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current will take you onto the uh the
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main shotline once you're on the main
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Shot line you then clip on the lazy shot
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and as you can see there's a weight and
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the weight will drop the lazy shot down
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the main Shot line when you get down to
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the B when you get down to where it is
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where the weight is as you can see here
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what you do is you take off the PRC as
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you can see uh put the PRC around the
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main shotline and what it's sometimes
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useful to do is to have another diver
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with you and the other diver can pull
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down the lazy shot a bit and and that
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will just help it get down a bit further
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and you can see um that's kind of what's
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going on here we're working together
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just to get the uh to get it down as far
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as possible get it all installed and all
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set up so I hope that answers your
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question and explains why there isn't
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that much drag and why it's a fairly
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easy and straightforward thing to do so
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the next question is uh from Papa Bear
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in the woods who asks if I've ever been
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scared or spooked for whatever reason
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and also uh you know asks about sharks
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and stuff well I guess easy one there I
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love Wildlife whatever it is sharks Etc
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I've seen them in Tropics as other
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people have not so much uh in in this
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country uh in terms of being spooked
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then yeah for certain absolutely I mean
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you just need to have a look at those
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Dives where I've I've struggled to get
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back to the shotline so I think my one
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about diving the velia you'll see you'll
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see me getting a bit concerned on that
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one and also in my uh my video about uh
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the uh the lazy shot sorry the strobes
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rather you'll see on there as well you
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know there's a dive I did uh on on a big
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old wreck off off the lizard where I was
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really really concerned I wasn't going
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to it back to the shotline so I guess
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those are the things uh those are the
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situations where I've been most
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concerned another question here from
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Samantha cool beans awesome awesome
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username by the way Samantha um this is
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asking if any anyone has ever been left
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behind on the main shot by mistake due
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to a missing tag or or um if they forgot
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to clip it on well I'm sure that
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probably has happened but I'm not aware
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of it happening um not least because I
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think with us the the strobes at the
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bottom of the shot tend to end tend to
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provide a second means of of figuring
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out who's on the uh you know who's who's
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where and and the dive so I've not
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really seen that happen but yeah I mean
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I guess it it conceivably could
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next question here is from uh neay
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mother uh asking about how we get the
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the shot onto the wreck well I mean
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there's a couple of different options um
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depends on the boat and the skipper
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really also how they judge the
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conditions uh grapple a really common uh
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the other thing that uh gets used a lot
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is a spud weight uh Spud weight is just
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basically a large heavy lump of
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something um yeah they they tend to be
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used if the skipper doesn't think
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they're going to be able to hook into
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the other thing to mention is you may
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have seen on some of my Dives that we
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use something called a waser which is a
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bit of uh you know rubbish string or
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whatever that we often use to tie the
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shot into the wreck so uh it's thin
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enough to break when the skipper decides
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that they need to recover their shot but
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it does just hold the uh the shot into
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the wreck against any current or
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anything like that so I've got a whole
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load of questions here from Eric uh
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hopefully some of them I've picked up
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already in the video um what's the
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purpose of a lazy shot I think should
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have got that already what situations
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does it make deep divers easier well
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this is all about decompressing in Tidal
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flows so rather than trying to hang on
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to a shotline use a lazy shots to
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provide a marker for all the divers to
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drift within the uh within the current
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so therefore it makes it easier for them
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is it only for deep Dives well not
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necessarily you could use it on any dive
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I guess where you need to do
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decompression uh in in current is it
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only for UK Dives well that's the same
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thing isn't it I guess any any dive
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where there's where there's current
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running and you you need to decompress
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in it and next one why the term lazy
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shot um I have no idea where the term
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comes from it's probably just one of
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those things that some guys came up with
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on a boat at some point there other
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types of shot no I'm not familiar with
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an industrious shot or an active shot or
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a um you know not much going on shot or
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a really quite busy at the moment shot
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uh none of those I'm familiar with so uh
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how is it deployed who deploys it well I
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think I've kind of I've covered that
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earlier on um showing the fact that it's
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normally taken in by some divers um
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although sometimes some Skippers do like
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to put them on themselves when when the
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shotline goes in uh how is it retrieved
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after the dive is over well it's just
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hanging in the water so once all the
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divers are up then the skipper and the
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boat just comes alongside it with a boat
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hook and it just gets pulled back board
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boat uh are there roles for divers at
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the beginning of the dive and during
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Deco stops um beginning of the dive if
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the divers are putting in the lazy shot
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then normally there'll be somebody
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nominated to do that potentially um some
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divers will also attach the waer so the
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first people down will will tie in the
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shot into the wreck are there any rols
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during Deco stops not really not that I
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not the way we do it um Chris is a
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strict no Kindles policy what are the
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rules regarding the lazy shot well the I
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guess the only real rules are ones I
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kind of covered so everyone's got to get
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back to the lazy shot last diver up
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pulls the uh pulls the the quick release
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um and then the other rule is that
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you've got to stay within visual sight
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of the lazy shot so if you're on a
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delayed s SMB you you've got to retain
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sight of it um that's pretty much it if
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you don't follow the rules um what's
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going to happen well no scuba police but
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you probably need to get prepared for uh
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for a bit of teasing or a bit of banter
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at the end of it next question here's
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another one from Samantha Who very
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kindly says that I'm an experienced
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diver what what attributes do you look
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for another divers that makes you want
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to welcome on on your dive team well
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that that's a really interesting
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question I guess the obvious answer is
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that you want people who are really
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really rich and happy to pay for
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everybody else's uh uh Dives
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I don't think that's what you meant it's
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also not actually true because what you
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want people to be fundamentally is not a
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liability to start with uh what you
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really want them to be though is is
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absolutely competent in the water all
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the potential situations that that
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you're going to face so that's kind of
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your Baseline level I guess on top of
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that it's a bonus if they're the sort of
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person that you want to spend a lot of
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time with on a boat it's also a bonus
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that they bring other skills and talents
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such as photography or videography or
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the ability to research or the ability
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to to spot things when you're underwater
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and kind of highlight them to others so
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um yeah I guess I guess those are the
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kind of things that we look for to for
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people who when they're joining the team
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here's another question from Samantha um
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she's asking um about stuff that happens
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on the boat so what what's important
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with the crew well I mean I'm really
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lucky most of the crew I dive with are
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really topnotch um and I think that's
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probably part of the game is that is
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that you're doing this the crew are part
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of the team the skipper and the uh
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normally there's a person on the boat
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who will help you get stuff off on and
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off help you get in and out of the water
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all those kind of things they are
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fundamentally part of the team and that
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they should be treated as such and they
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should be selected to be part of the
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team so um I guess all these things
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always about communication so it's
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important when you're working with
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somebody if you've not worked with them
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before just to explain what you do and
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don't like so some people like it to
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have uh a hand getting their stages on
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other people don't other people help
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like being helped to get onto their feet
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other people don't um and I think it's
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you as a diver it's incumbent upon you
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to communicate to the crew what it is
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that you want um so I guess I would I
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put it almost back it's it's on you to
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to kind of decide what it is that you
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want the crew to do second part that
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question was about other divers what do
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they do that that that makes pisses me
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off or doesn't uh when uh when they're
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on the boat I guess for me the thing
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that irritates me more than anything
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else is uh is bad kit admin so there's
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there are people who get aboard a boat
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and they will just explode and there'll
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be bits of rebreather and bits of Kit
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all over the boat most boats are pretty
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tight for space and they uh if somebody
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just takes up the whole lot that that
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really irritates me particularly in the
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where where space is normally even more
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even more limited you get people who
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just bring on tons of spares and tool
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boxes and you know all sorts of stuff
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and um yeah that that's something that
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really annoys me but hey you know I'm
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sure there's loads of things I do that
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annoy other people as well next question
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is about what to do during long periods
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of Deco well I mean if you haven't
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already done you should have a look at
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my uh my video about reading a Kindle
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underwater um that's that's kind of
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mainly what I do the other thing I
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sometimes do is as you can see here I'm
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busy taking photographs of people on
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Deco stops uh that'll make a bit of time
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go past but uh not a huge amount also if
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you have a look at there on some of my
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videos You'll see we get visited by
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Dolphins every now and again on Deco
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stops which is also quite nice although
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um doesn't necessarily uh keep you
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occupied for the entire time next
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question is about the pill um also
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sometimes called the pellet and this is
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uh something that we use when we get to
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the bottom of the dive and it's
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basically a solid um positively buoyant
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object that we release and uh send up to
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the surface and once it's gone up to
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surface the boat uh crew can see it uh
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they realize that the divers are on the
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wreck and they can then put the the next
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set of divers in doesn't always get used
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um some Skippers like it some people
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don't but I guess the key thing about it
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is it's it's got to be uh solid so it
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doesn't get crushed at depth and it's
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got to be positively buoyant and it's
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got to be easy for the for the boat crew
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to see so normally it's an old sort of
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it's a piece of fishing equipment the
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sort of thing they use to keep Nets
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floating above the sea uh that kind of
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thing uh next question is about uh Deco
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stops and uh request to see all all My
20:48
Deco steps um what I'm going to do on
20:51
this one is I'm going to put together a
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a whole video about um planning and and
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that will cover what deco stops uh we we
21:00
get out of the planning tools and those
21:01
kind of things so um sorry I'm not going
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to answer this question in this video
21:04
but I will do another one at some point
21:06
that does cover this hope that's okay
21:09
final question is from a fisherman and I
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seem to get quite a few fisherman on my
21:13
channel which is something I I didn't
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expect so first of all welcome Jonathan
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uh I'm glad you enjoy my videos um in
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terms of um son our images um I I don't
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know why but I I don't take lots of
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photos of of the the sonar but what I'm
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going to do for this year is I'm going
21:31
to spend much more time doing this kind
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of thing and hopefully I'm going to put
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one on every every video that I do for
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the 2025 season um what I would say
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though is if you haven't already done so
21:43
have a look at my uh my video about
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diving uh the Medina which is the the
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large raw yacht the the liner not least
21:51
because on there is a really good
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multi-beam image of the wreck and it
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will give you a feel for what that's
21:59
I really surprised how many questions
22:00
that I've I've actually had on all sorts
22:02
of different topics as well so um thank
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you very much to everybody uh who sent
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in a question I hope if you did put in a
22:09
question you feel that I've answered it
22:11
uh if if you don't then obviously please
22:13
stick something in the comments I I'll
22:15
try and pick up in another video or
22:16
answer it in the comments um meanwhile I
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guess um this has been a really
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interesting video for me to produce it's
22:23
it's actually um been far more effort
22:26
than I thought it was going to be but I
22:28
hope um I hope it's been interesting as
22:30
with all my videos I hope you've enjoyed
22:32
it I hope you've learned a bit from it
22:34
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22:36
if you gave me a like uh it is useful uh
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fantastic for those of you who have
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subscribed then then it would be awesome
22:51
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alerted whenever I release another video
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any anyway uh that's all for this video
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and uh I will look forward to seeing you
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all next time thank you