WATCH: Maggie Oliver delivers huge update on bid to deliver justice for rape gang victims
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Apr 14, 2025
Former police officer Maggie Oliver has launched a campaign to prosecute politicians who fail to protect rape gang victims across the UK.The initiative, called #TheyKnew, aims to gather evidence for legal action against officials who covered up child abuse.READ THE FULL STORY
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Joining me now is Maggie Oliver, a lady who has done more to try to support victims and survivors of grooming gangs than, frankly, pretty much anyone in Britain
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Maggie, it's an absolute pleasure to see you again. Thank you so much for making the time for us tonight on GB News
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Now, I'm going to throw it over to you, Maggie, because I think you have a big announcement to make when it comes to grooming gangs
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So the floor is yours. yeah thank you Patrick as always and to your viewers for all the support and encouragement
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you give I think what I'd like to say first of all Patrick is that this new this campaign is
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completely separate from my charity totally independent of that it's called hashtag they
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knew I was a police officer for 16 years and what I saw horrified me to the extent that I resigned
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I saw what I believe to be corruption and cover-ups on an industrial scale
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to prosecute serial sexual offenders and protect children. Now, when I resigned, I had three aims
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One, to help every victim and survivor who needed help so that they weren't on their own
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The second one was to hold those who have knowingly failed in their duty to protect children
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to hold them accountable, and I mean legally accountable, criminally accountable, for gross criminal neglect
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And the third aim was to bring in systemic change so that future generations of children do not have to suffer
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the same neglect that previous generations have. So I have seen over the last 12 years repeatedly cover-ups
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The evidence is there to show that there was gross criminal neglect
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And yet I have taken it to every institution. You know, police complaints, the IOPC, the Home Office, the Children's Commissioner
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Nobody wants to do anything about it. The country knows there has been a cover-up
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And yet no individual senior chief constable, head of social services, council leader has ever been held criminally to account for gross neglect
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And this campaign is to bring barristers, lawyers together who are giving their time on a very, some of it pro bono, but as a public service to gather the evidence to ensure that action is taken
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And it's survivor led, but it's evidence driven. I know from my 15, 20 years of experience that the evidence exists to prove that those at the top of these institutions knowingly covered it up
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I can't pay for a private prosecution. That is probably what it will need
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But I believe firmly that without personal accountability for those in positions of power we will never really see the changes that we need And we will continue to abandon children to their fate when the institutions fail to step in
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Nobody has been held accountable. What you've just shown, Patrick, has shown that the government, repeated governments, successive governments, do not wish to open this can of worms
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and it will take people who take the law out of their hands
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to make sure that something is done about it. How damning is this, Maggie
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Seriously, it's got to a point, as far as you're concerned, that every single institutional public body
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that is supposed to be doing this kind of stuff, every single politician has failed and is refusing to do so
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And so the only way that victims and survivors are going to get justice, but also, crucially
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the only way that people who may have been in positions of power
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in the police force, in positions of power in politics, both at a local and at a more national level
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in positions of power in other areas, for example, whether they might have been magistrates or things like that
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the only way they are potentially going to be legally held to account
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is going to be through someone like yourself and others taking those matters into your own hands
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I mean, that is quite damning, isn't it? It's damning, but that is what I believe, Patrick
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I mean, I'm going to simplify it to one example, for instance, but there are many
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2005, Operation Augusta, 97 paedophiles identified, named. We knew who they were
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It turns out now over 70 children abandoned. Greater Manchester Police, the Gold Command Group
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knowingly, deliberately closed down that investigation because they wouldn't put resources in
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The official report in 2020 confirmed that. Five senior officers were referred to the IOPC
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They all refused to be interviewed. They are still walking the streets on a big pension
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The authorities know that they are guilty of gross criminal neglect. Those men were allowed to continue to abuse for another 20 years
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I do not believe that the state will take action. And so it's left to people like me with my experience
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I don't want my knowledge and experience to fade away before we see true accountability
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and I am using my knowledge and my experience to try and lead the country towards the change that is needed
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I can't do it on my own. I need public support to do it. None of this money that is raised, Patrick, will come to me, the survivors
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It is to ensure that action is taken and I believe this is the only way to do it
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I honestly and truthfully do believe that, Patrick. I going to tell people how they can donate as well in a second But you firmly believe then that currently in Britain there are people who have either retired now from positions of power
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or are still in positions of power who were complicit in either A, the abuse, or B, the cover-up
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And do you think that the reason why people have had... By the way, Labour deny that they've pulled the rug on this, right
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But the perception certainly is that they have. Do you think the reason why they've pulled the rug on it is because they are worried about how deep this goes and what it might reveal
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I think that they just want to cover it up. And that's been the case. You know, Anne Cryer, you know, she was trying to get it highlighted 25 years ago
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They're not going to do anything about it. I don't trust them. And that's based not on my ideas. It's based on what I have seen
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I know the evidence is there. I have shared it with the Home Office. They have done nothing with it. And I've not seen anything in the last three months that leads me to believe that there is ever going to be a difference unless people in office now believe that in 10 years time, they may be held accountable for their deliberate neglect of duty. That's the only way I see change
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Practically speaking, Maggie, how do you see this playing out? So is there a team of lawyers behind this
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You say that you've got evidence. Obviously, we're not going to name any names or anything. You've been very careful not to do that, and I understand exactly why
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But you believe you've got evidence on various people or groups or organisations
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And who are you going to be presenting that evidence to? How do you see this panning out if you're going to get justice
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This is an investigation that the barristers, they are the legal brains
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I know what the evidence is. They have to find a way through this
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They have to gather the evidence. They have to put it together in a way that they can present
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in a private prosecution or in a criminal case. They will go where the evidence takes them
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But I know I've had 20 years. I've spoken to thousands of victims
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Many are saying, and I know it is the truth, that they have not been heard
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And the organizations, the public services, are more interested in protecting their reputation
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than in making sure that there is accountability when people deliberately fail in their duty
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It's not my opinion, Patrick. The facts back that up. And we just need the support to do this
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The government should be doing this. And you're right to say it's not just your opinion
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I mean, you obviously come at it from an angle of you believe you're sitting on huge amounts of documented evidence
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Yes, I do. I believe you are as well, probably. But it's also very prominent voices, you know
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even the likes of a very well-respected figure in the British media, Trevor Phillips, who, as well, I believe, was a former
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may still be a current Labour Party member he been very open about that in the past who went on record last week saying look as far as he concerned and I am paraphrasing here but as far as he concerned the main reason why Labour have not maybe gone as deep into this
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as they possibly could have done would be to either, you know, potentially protect some of their own, whether it's councillors, etc.
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or not want to inflame racial tensions. They're very scared, maybe, of the quotes-unquote Muslim votes
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in some of the constituencies, etc. So it's not just you saying this, it's not just me saying this
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There's a perception there right across the country. Now, I am going to say that the way that people can help out in this
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if they wish to, would be, as I believe, is going to go to crowdjustice.co.uk forward slash theyknew
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which is crowdjustice.co.uk forward slash theyknew. That's up to anyone here if they want to do that
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But a lot of our viewers and listeners, Maggie, will remember some of the last times we spoke was for a different crowdfunding event
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That was actually for the Maggie Oliver Foundation. So if we could just do a little bit of a handbrake turn onto that and just maybe just say to our viewers and listeners exactly how that money's helped
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You know, you know what? It's been life changing for the charity. And I feel now because of that, because we are able to have some security for the future
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thanks to all the donations that came in on your fundraiser, Patrick, it's been life changing for us
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this has allowed me to kind of take my eye off the ball
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knowing that the victims and survivors are actually being supported properly by the charity
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But this is close to my heart. I don't want to die with all my knowledge and all my learning having been gone to waste
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because I truly believe that I have got, you know, I know where the victims are that have this evidence
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I know that they need to be heard. But we don't need another seven years delay in another inquiry
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What we need is action. The company that we've set up as a vehicle to push this action is called Action for Accountability
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And that is where we will see success. We will see accountability
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We will have people in the future then looking over their shoulder, knowing that they, too, could be held to account in 10 years' time if they do not act and do their duty today
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hey, this is about the future. It is not about the past. But in order to change things for the future
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we have to make sure that people in positions of trust and authority now know that they can be personally held accountable for their failures
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Well, Maggie, thank you very, very much. It's always a pleasure to see you. Well done for sticking your head above the parapet again
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I hope that we can continue to touch base on this. That is Maggie Oliver there
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And look, hey, it's a real shame, isn't it, that people, individuals, you know, feel as though that they have to take matters into their own hands to get justice for the victims
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for the survivors, but also to ensure that some people who may have been involved in
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