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The Football Association, the FA, they've quietly updated their transgender rules, Andy
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to stop preventing, they say, athletes born male playing in women's matches
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Not quite going that far. Yeah, so the devil's in the detail here because the Telegraph, as they would
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are positioning this as if the FA have sort of relaxed the rules
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but they've actually made them more stringent. So what they've done is they're responding to the debate around trans people
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you know, trans women playing in men's sports, vice versa. by laying out a formal process by which trans women can be excluded
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on a case-by-case basis from playing men's sports. So what they've done is they've actually tightened up the rules
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It's ridiculous. A case-by-case. Are you a man or are you a woman? That's the case. That's the only case
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What possible variant on that could be available to make it possible for a man to play football against a woman
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There isn't, Nana. And, you know, I think you're saying that they've made things more stringent
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Well, what remains is that they haven't banned transgender players from playing against females
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It gives them an unfair advantage. In football, I mean, it's just the straightforward advantage issue
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But in other sports, it's a case of actually putting women in harm's way
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like with boxing, for example. In rugby, they have brought in a ban because rugby is a dangerous sport
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Well, quite, but the point is that women work exceptionally hard. Young athletes work exceptionally hard to be at the top of their game
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And then you end up with biological males coming in and destroying their chances of ever being able to be ranked at the top of their game that is completely unacceptable And what it does is it destroys women sports So it extremely ironic I think that so many people on the left
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who love to make a big fuss about the lionesses, the lioness line now that we have on the trains in London
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but at the same time, just completely supporting the erosion of women's sports
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And it's not just the sport itself, it's also the politics around it
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because the Telegraph, the paper running this story, they also recently revealed that a girl with autism
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had been banned by her county's football association after asking a transgender opponent, are you a man
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They're not just, as Emma says, demolishing the sport through the biological differences
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but they're using political differences for punishing people who speak out. Yeah, well, I think that's silly
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I think that's silly. What about the changing room issue as well? Because if you're going to say that person, it's fine
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then with all the tackle, you can still come in and change in the women's. It's absurd
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Well, I think that's a problem. I think with those women's-only spaces
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I think that there is a serious debate to be had about that. On the sports question, I think there is a slight nuance here
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which is that if you're looking at one-on-one competitive sports, like swimming, for example
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I think there does need to be an outright ban there. But in team sports, I think it's just a bit more..
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No, it's ridiculous. Men shouldn't be playing up against women. There was a... I can't remember how long ago this was now
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but there were some young lads, I think they were school kids, who played against a national football team
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and I think they actually beat the women's team. The disparity there is completely..
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15, 14-year-old lads played against the women's team. Yeah, and you say it's a team sport
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but if one team has a transgender player and the other doesn't..
