WATCH: Sir Jake Berry claims Keir Starmer has 'no mandate' for new EU deal

Let's look at the reality

What have they got to be happy about? Sir Jake, when he takes a breath, will remember that the numbers that are going to go forward

for the next 12 years of how much EU can fish in our waters is just the same as it was

under Boris Johnson's deal. The difference is that it would have come up for a renewal every 12 months

Which would have expired in a matter of months. And that would be a hell of a situation. And let's look at the reality

Hang on, before you move on and just shrug that off, which would have expired in a matter of months? Yes, and have to renegotiate it

So as the only person sat round this sofa who actually negotiated Britain's Brexit deal

I was in the Cabinet at the time, that was a high price that we paid as a transition period

which would see Britain get its Brexit deal through. This has now been given away for 12..

He's got no mandate to do that. 12 years. That's longer than even Tony Blair was Prime Minister of a country

It's three parliaments. It's three parliaments. Sorry, Benjamin, continue your point. Thank you. Well, first of all, the Boris Johnson deal put a border down the North Sea and handed Northern Ireland to the EU

So I don't think that's less of a concession. The Theresa May deal collapsed a government which caused years of turmoil, nearly let Jeremy Corbyn become prime minister

I don't think that was an acceptable concession. Now, actually, 70 percent of our fish is sold into the EU

And what these changes do is make that easier for them to sell their produce. And what we got is so much less red tape Conservatives should appreciate this that what businesses have been saying for years small businesses and big ones is that the amount of red tape and the amount that that slows down getting products across the border if they can at all has cost billions Why is that red tape there Why are the EU so vindictive to include all that

Because we left the EU and put up loads of barriers. No, the EU put up loads of barriers. That's their right to do because we were outside their economic agreements

And so the fact is that, you know, the fishing industry brings in about, makes about £3 billion a year

This will make triple that for the UK economy. And when you've got companies like Marks and Spencer

that had to cease trading in France because it couldn't get things across the border fast enough

how is that helping British workers? How do we deal with the fishing industry then? Because they're getting shafted, there'll be no-one to replace them

It will die, just like farming will die. I mean, you said it in your intro, you know

The older generation now, they will die. Maybe their sons and daughters may not go into it because of this

But, you know, the thing is, I don't get Starmer. You know, it's like he wants to be chucked out of power

You know, today he just gave reform a standing start to win the next election

Farage has already said, you know, I will reverse all of this if you make me Prime Minister

I will kick it all out, make me PM. And people, I mean, I've been reading online today

you know, families who have voted Tory for years have just said, that's it now, we're going for reform

Not going wrong, because the Tories are a busted flush as well. So people are now going to vote for reform

You the people that wanted no deal at all that would have collapsed the UK economy But Benjamin Benjamin is why If Brexit was so good then why are food prices up

Why is immigration up? Why is energy prices up? Why are there economies in the toilet

Yeah, I mean, you've asked me seriously, food prices are up. Well, as far as I'm aware, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal haven't left the European Union

And their food prices are up more than ours. As far as I'm aware, France, Germany, Portugal haven't left the European Union

They're suffering with migration in the same way. But our prices have gone up. They've got no, no. But Benny, you're completely wrong

Prices have gone up across the European Union because of Covid. It's nothing to do

You know, the correlation between food prices going up is not the same thing as causation

Food prices have gone up because of Ukraine and Brexit. And actually, do you know, you say big business welcomes this

Of course they do. Big business always welcomes uncontrolled migration to the country

because it's a lot cheaper to give an immigrant a job than it is to train a British person

You're saying those companies that can no longer send British products to the EU, they should be having with that scenario

The problem Keir Starmer has with this, and he has no mandate to do it

is that he entered the negotiations saying, whatever you say, I won't walk away from the table

At least with the no-deal Brexit, you say, oh, you wanted a no-deal Brexit

No, we didn't want a no-deal Brexit, but we were prepared to hold it over the head of the European Union to get the right deal for the British people Starmer has just surrendered The deal we got on fish is the exact same number that Sir Jake government got For 12 years

Do you not get that this is a betrayal of democracy? People voted to leave the European Union and now we're going to be going back

Benjamin, Labour got a lower vote share than Corbyn. It was a loveless landslide, as it's been described

Comparing that to 17.4 million people who voted Leave, the biggest... You just spat on all the people there

..the biggest Democratic vote in the history of this country, which has never, even by your government, Sir Jake, I'll say that

which has never been carried out because there's been not a genuine Brexiteer anywhere near government or in Parliament

We've never had a majority Leave Parliament. You had Liz Truss. Liz Truss

Yeah. You had Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, OK? And she was shafted by the establishment

Two ardent Brexiteers and one person who actually voted... No, actually, that is a really good point

This project to force Britain back into the EU is bigger. I want to hear from Sir Jake

Ben, I think you should apologise for interrupting me, but let's not make a point of it

But actually, this project to force Britain back into the EU is actually bigger than Keir Starmer

He's the useful idiot who's done the establishment's work for him. But never forget that London, North London, the establishment

don't like the fact that people across Britain, in coastal communities who'll be decimated

like Blackpool and other coastal communities, had the pluck to stand up for their nation

Exactly. Keir Starmer's knocking you right back down. How dare